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Kate's avatar

I thought that the military had told tRUMP they would not draw up these plans?!

OldnTired's avatar

If Trump takes over Greenland, it will fracture NATO irreparably. There can be no remaining trust in the United States keeping any treaties or pacts or the other covenants of NATO. There cannot be any belief that joint intelligence efforts aren’t having ultra-sensitive data routed directly to Moscow. Allowing American military assets to remain in European countries is to let the betrayers have a foothold. The members of NATO must 1) cancel all acquisition contracts with the military goods suppliers in America; and 2) begin to replace any American made systems which may have ‘kill switches’ that would allow Trump to defang NATO if his friend Vlad asked him to.

The order of precedence to get Europe safe from betrayal.

1) Remove all American personnel from NATO facilities, and the military bases in European countries. Further give the dependents of these personnel a short time span to also return home to America. (AKA ‘soft deport them’)

2) Begin a systematic search to locate all American intelligence assets within NATO and send them packing, because they are no longer ‘friendly’ associates.

3) Use international law of the seas to declare that American naval forces must remain in international waters.

4) As NATO tries to reconstitute itself, they will need to take deep serious looks at whether countries like Hungary with Orban should have a place at the table; and Great Britain must decide if they’re the Toady of Trump or a member of NATO.

I don’t make these recommendations lightly. But once the trust is broken, it is gone for any foreseeable future, even if a Europe friendly Democratic president were to come on the scene.

You can rely on Trump to threaten and increase tariffs, hurting more Americans than Europeans, and Canadians. He will probably refuse to comply. The European countries must be prepared to make it extremely difficult for him not to.

For those who think I’m being negative, you just read Rick Wilson’s analysis of the situation. Rick is getting rightfully gloomy. I’m just delineating what any sovereign nation must do after having been betrayed as Trump is no doubt planning on doing.

As for the JCOS, we will have to see what mettle they have. Then again, I grew up watching ‘Seven Days in May’ and ‘Fail Safe’ and Dr Strangelove. Yes, I can see certain Trump administration officials (you know the one) suddenly crying out “Mien Fuhrer, I can walk!”

OldnTired's avatar

It appears I reached a character limit in the above.

To conclude what I had written.

For those who think I’m being negative, you just read Rick Wilson’s analysis of the situation. Rick is getting rightfully gloomy. I’m just delineating what any sovereign nation must do after having been betrayed as Trump is no doubt planning on doing.

As for the JCOS, we will have to see what mettle they have. Then again, I grew up watching ‘Seven Days in May’ and ‘Fail Safe’ and Dr Strangelove. Yes, I can see certain Trump administration officials (you know the one) suddenly crying out “Mien Fuhrer, I can walk!”

Christine's avatar

After what learned about ‘perfidy’ and the illegal use of it, when is someone going to arrest Hegseth and Trump and Miller for it? Do we need an international court to indict?

How do we do that!

This is going way too far!

Trump needs to be escorted out of the White House by U S Marshals and driven to the nearest psychiatric hospital!

Al Draycott's avatar

Thank Rick: Storm the White House , apprehend the mad hatter along with mein Anführer Stephen Miller and the Heritage Foundation cabal. Hitler did the same crap in Europe, Neville Chamberlain sucked up to Hitler signed the 1938 Munich Agreement for Czechoslovakia's Sudetenland, but Hitler had other plans , cut a deal with Russia to divide Poland then eventually turned on Russia. Has Trump cut a deal with Putin. Its getting a little late in the day to do much. Congress has been neutered the institutions have been dismantled . The country is been policed with a massive ICE gestapo force. The National guard will eventually be absorbed into the gestapo vortex. The resignations of the Joint Chiefs of Staff may slow it down some what but Hegseth will just replace them with mental misfits. Jeez , I hope I am wrong.

Christine's avatar

Maybe what the joint chiefs should do is walk into the White House and subdue everyone there and take over the government!

Is anyone in Congress paying attention to any of this?

Su Doyle's avatar

Thank you, Rick, as always, for getting to the point, and keeping it sharp. Love Ground News as well, but they need to update their bias charts for CBS, NYT, Wash Post and other outlets that have caved to Trump.

Michael Krikorian's avatar

To Wendy, the so-called druid, get your head out your ass. The cost of everything will triple if trump pushes us into a war. What the heck is the matter with you. Druids were cunning and smart and did not act on guttural ambitions. This from a true Scot. Get your head on straight for God's sake.

Russ MacKechnie's avatar

Outstanding draft memo for the Joint Chiefs, Rick. Just outstanding. Sadly, I doubt it will be tweaked. The cancerous fingers of ETTD disease have, I am sure, reached into the Pentagon by now and metastasized. Won't be tweaked. Won't be rewritten. Will be . . . ignored. Failure to stand up to an order to invade Greenland would be the most shameful, immoral military calamity since My Lai. If this Trumpian disaster-in-the-wings actually occurs, the pride in my USAF service that I've enjoyed unwaveringly for 55 years would disappear overnight . . . along with any remaining credibility, worldwide, in the moral stature of the United States, its military, and its Constitution.

Nermie000's avatar

There is also an economic reality here that Trump and his idiot administration are failing to acknowledge. America is a debtor nation, with over two trillion dollars of US bonds being held across the globe. Europe, including the countries in NATO, hold billions of dollars of that debt. There's already doubt in the world about the US being able to pay our debt - how much trust will there be if Trump decides to go rogue and attack an ally? What will the country do if Europe cashes in their treasury bonds en masse? Or Russia or China or CANADA, for that matter?

Michael Krikorian's avatar

I warned of this right after the first boat strike. Every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff have already issued illegal orders. The Greenland issue is deadly and will draw us into a world war. They know this. I taught young Airmen about the UCMJ and their duty to refuse to follow illegal orders. The trump fuck is an abomination and must removed now before he pushes us into WWIII.

Mike's avatar

I thought I read that the Generals had told him to pound sand on this. No?

Joni Foster's avatar

If Greenland isn't enough to enact the 25th, then I don't know what is! Hopefully, the Joint Chiefs are copying your resignation memo and getting ready to submit theirs.

I'm definitely going to check out Ground News! It sounds like exactly what I need in my information arsenal.

Jessie Goldfarb's avatar

We must have a national, general strike if he tries it.

CAM from 🇨🇦's avatar

Subject of discussion in 🇨🇦 is when will he trounce on our country and tell us how happy we’ll be to become Americans. The man is just sick and frankly we’re sick and tired of listening to him talk about taking over Greenland and any other country he has his eyes on.

Sharon Heidē Ward's avatar

“Let us pray that the Chiefs are bold men in this moment.” I prayed more in 2025 than in my previous 65 years. And more in 2026 than in 2025. That math ain't mathing.

Mike's avatar

" ... why would any nation in Europe ever trust us again?"

With or without a Greenland raid, we're kinda already there, n'est-ce pas?