I had an intimation of this in the pit of my stomach back in the summer of '15 with the primary season beginning and Trump still regarded by the (so-called) smart money as a stunt candidate. At the Iowa State Fair, Trump gave groups of kids short rides in his TRUMP helicopter. The nanosecond I heard of that, I knew the bonding experience with the kids and their parents from that silly little hop would be utterly intense and long lasting. A God Come Down From The Sky.
One recalls that a state fair snake oil salesman got to be the Wizard of Oz by ascending into the heavens in a hot air balloon.
Absolutely fantastic interview Rick and it's not something we've seen too often. We see the scorned and disrespected experts like Miles Taylor or well-motivated guys like George Conway who thought for a hot minute he might be able to keep Trump in line from inside the administration. Rich Logis, instead, is not a former member of the GOP establishment, he's an indigenous product of the MAGA feeder system, a Breitbart dittohead.
I was impressed with Rich; he was much more articulate than I had expected (props for use of the Wagnerian term leitmotif). I agree with the general 12-Step orientation of his group, which is also similar to cult deprogramming support groups. Cults and chemical addictions have many overlaps.
Ok the MAGA cult is a vile horrid thing, but what of the Republicans that have embraced the idiocy for their personal wealth and power and who see the house on fire but refuse to lift a finger to put it out.
Is it a bunch of vile cultists or is it the enabling country club republicans?
I’ve seen more of the gullible white Christian nationalist types who are just as greedy, but somehow think their support will “earn” them a bigger slice of the pie on earth. Despite all evidence to the contrary.
Thanks Rick: A great pod cast. In all nations there is always a certain element of folks that have been left out of the ;mix. They feel like they are not part of a community . Trump has an ability to impress these folks and make them feel like they belong. Its a nice feeling. He convinces these folks that only he can fix things. The importance of belonging. is so powerful. The influence is so powerful and invigorating. MAGA members are all not terrible folks , they just caught up in this vile vortex of insanity. Its time to reach out and engage those living in doubt and quit attacking them.
I put him in the ‘Mike Lindell’ category- used car salesman because his 25cent pillow is a fucking miracle, he cradles the bag of foam byproducts as if it was a little baby. But that’s not all…
Thank for the excellent interview and podcast, Rich is a very brave person to take on this task of getting former, MAGA members to heal themselves and help others.
We need a Randy Rainbow parody: 50 ways to leave the MAGA!
Great interview! The person most likely to help another see is one who has walked in their shoes. Small numbers can multiply
I had an intimation of this in the pit of my stomach back in the summer of '15 with the primary season beginning and Trump still regarded by the (so-called) smart money as a stunt candidate. At the Iowa State Fair, Trump gave groups of kids short rides in his TRUMP helicopter. The nanosecond I heard of that, I knew the bonding experience with the kids and their parents from that silly little hop would be utterly intense and long lasting. A God Come Down From The Sky.
One recalls that a state fair snake oil salesman got to be the Wizard of Oz by ascending into the heavens in a hot air balloon.
Absolutely fantastic interview Rick and it's not something we've seen too often. We see the scorned and disrespected experts like Miles Taylor or well-motivated guys like George Conway who thought for a hot minute he might be able to keep Trump in line from inside the administration. Rich Logis, instead, is not a former member of the GOP establishment, he's an indigenous product of the MAGA feeder system, a Breitbart dittohead.
I was impressed with Rich; he was much more articulate than I had expected (props for use of the Wagnerian term leitmotif). I agree with the general 12-Step orientation of his group, which is also similar to cult deprogramming support groups. Cults and chemical addictions have many overlaps.
If tRump’s mouth is open, he’s lying!
Out like a light. Isn’t his tongue hanging out too.
I don’t understand how ANYONE thought reelecting tRump after his 1st term was a good idea
WTF took sooooo long?
It gave me hope, maybe my MAGA family and friends will finally come to their senses? I hope so.
Excellent!
Ok the MAGA cult is a vile horrid thing, but what of the Republicans that have embraced the idiocy for their personal wealth and power and who see the house on fire but refuse to lift a finger to put it out.
Is it a bunch of vile cultists or is it the enabling country club republicans?
I’ve seen more of the gullible white Christian nationalist types who are just as greedy, but somehow think their support will “earn” them a bigger slice of the pie on earth. Despite all evidence to the contrary.
Thanks Rick: A great pod cast. In all nations there is always a certain element of folks that have been left out of the ;mix. They feel like they are not part of a community . Trump has an ability to impress these folks and make them feel like they belong. Its a nice feeling. He convinces these folks that only he can fix things. The importance of belonging. is so powerful. The influence is so powerful and invigorating. MAGA members are all not terrible folks , they just caught up in this vile vortex of insanity. Its time to reach out and engage those living in doubt and quit attacking them.
I put him in the ‘Mike Lindell’ category- used car salesman because his 25cent pillow is a fucking miracle, he cradles the bag of foam byproducts as if it was a little baby. But that’s not all…
Thanks Rick. Something we all needed to hear. Good to know this is happening.
Thank you Rick. I sent this to my estranged maga sister with the message, “It’s never too late to change your mind.”
Not the ones I know absolutely the ones I know are still fucking dumpsters 24 seven
Look up Tony Alamo's Christian Foundation and see what happened after Tony died in prison.
Thank for the excellent interview and podcast, Rich is a very brave person to take on this task of getting former, MAGA members to heal themselves and help others.