I've felt these things about Christianity ever since I left the Catholic Church at 16, but this video is the most devastating, scripturally accurate breakdown of my anti-clerical intuitions yet.
Jesus was not a savior, he was the leader of a destructive cult:
Still waiting on institutionalist Roberts to show up. The failure of the SCt to support judicial branch autonomy is heartbreaking. The courts become window-dressing, exactly, Rick. Thanks for this program.
I caught this after SCOTUS had decided the cases and the the birthright decision. I am convinced they are doing everything they can to aid a tyrant. I have no idea what their end game is. I will say this and I think millions of people think this: I will abandon democracy when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
Just to clarify: The Ten Commandments would not be a problem for a Muslim parent because the Muslims revere Moses as a prophet of God in the same way they consider Jesus (Son of Mary) as a prophet of God (Muslims just don’t believe that Jesus WAS literally God incarnate) The Ten Commandments might be possibly be a problem for a Hindu or Buddhist parent but the real problem would be for atheists. Didn’t we go through some case years ago where some woman atheist raised a big stink about people praying in schools? Whatever happened to that precedent?
I don't know if this reasoning makes sense since it's an implicit insult to Muslims, whose moral cornerstone comes from Sharia law, not the Ten Commandments. Why should they have another culture's moral values imposed on them? And Judaic traditions don't view the Ten Commandments in the same way. Again, it's a imposition of religion by an institution of the state, in this case public education, which is explicitly prohibited by the Establishment Clause.
To say that atheists would be the most offended just doesn't parse.
You’re probably right, but I was thinking mostly of that woman atheist Madeleine Murray O’Hare or something- because wasn’t there an actual case back in the day that prohibited prayer in schools? I don’t understand how these precedents are now being ignored.
Kind of reminds me of our local weirdo from Hawai’i, Tulsi Gabbard. I mean we all go through political changes over time, but some people are just off the charts!!
Her dad's religious cult -- Hare Krishnas in business suits, basically -- glommed on hard to social conservative issues he thought he could ride into office. "I wouldn't marry my DOG." Hysterical. But that was Tulsi's Red/Brown Convergence entree to illustrate the horseshoe theory of politics and go from New Age peacenik in the Democratic Party to full blown MAGA.
So funny to see her iced out over Iran. You surprised, Tulsi? ;)
I remember those weird displays that they used to put up at Honolulu City Lights. I know there’s also something where Mike Gabbard’s son is a homosexual?
It’s a totally fucked up family!
For awhile back around 2016 I used to go to a potluck here with a lot of old Democratic Party operatives. Boy oh boy- they had a few words to say about Tulsi!!😱
I'd say the crunchy-to-wingnut pipeline was amusing if it wasn't so dangerous. It's RFKjr, right? The crusading environmental lawyer and River Keeper eating roadkill and bathing his children in sewage contaminated streams. And whatever happened to Marianne Williamson? I'll just bet she's an RFKjr supporter now, LOL
There are more of these people than we like to think, Bernie-to-Trump voters who have a leftist analysis of the failures of duopoly government believing that Trump will transcend it all and usher in a world of abundance and no wars. Joe Rogan is a Bernie bro who also became a white nationalism-curious antivaxxer.
Quite an interesting figure. This was in the 60s and 70s when the courts were much more socially liberal. She put atheism on the map as a political movement but was also the archetypical crank, a Holocaust denier, conspiracy theorist and a radical feminist too radical for feminism. The atheism movement had since distanced themselves from her (Christopher Hitchens called her a "madwoman") and she became the perfect fright figure for the New Right, the anti-Phyllis Schlafly. Didn't help that her dad was a Communist and she was a Socialist.
She was part of the landmark SCOTUS case that ruled prayer in school unconstitutional, but she was also the chief speechwriter for porn king Larry Flynt's '84 presidential campaign. As an advocate for secularism of that era, I prefer Frank Zappa, but she had her place to be sure, even though she'd never be one to build consensus around constitutional principles with those less radical than she.
It's all Vatican II and Pope Francis approved, but anytime you mix in Pentecostal / charismatic stuff with mainline denominations, weird, culty stuff starts happening. Hopefully they won't jump the Catholic doctrinal shark and become premillenarian (End Times) Christian like the Protestant Pentecostal / charismatics. End Times Christianity just licenses preppers.
It's a shame you recorded this before we learned about the cheesiest bro losing his law license. The livestream chat was pretty grim. I want to clarify that I'm an ardent supporter of reproductive autonomy and am no fan Catholic Integralism (of which Opus Dei is a manifestation), but I do think that Amy Coney Barrett is cut from a different cloth than Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.
I think technically she's the swing vote on SCOTUS now, which means she's fulfilling the role of Anthony Kennedy and Sandra Day O'Connor. Which is not to compare SDO's beliefs about abortion with ACB's, just that they're both conservative straight shooters by their lights.
Sonia Sotomayor with her blistering dissents is the new Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
I've felt these things about Christianity ever since I left the Catholic Church at 16, but this video is the most devastating, scripturally accurate breakdown of my anti-clerical intuitions yet.
Jesus was not a savior, he was the leader of a destructive cult:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTK62wXnzkY
What was the music playing in the background? Very annoying.
Still waiting on institutionalist Roberts to show up. The failure of the SCt to support judicial branch autonomy is heartbreaking. The courts become window-dressing, exactly, Rick. Thanks for this program.
Thanks for having Andrew on; I’m always interested in what he has to say.
I saw this video after the SCOTUS decided. Awful. Hard to believe in the wisdom of a court a use to respect.
The possibilities are terrifying.
I caught this after SCOTUS had decided the cases and the the birthright decision. I am convinced they are doing everything they can to aid a tyrant. I have no idea what their end game is. I will say this and I think millions of people think this: I will abandon democracy when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
Just to clarify: The Ten Commandments would not be a problem for a Muslim parent because the Muslims revere Moses as a prophet of God in the same way they consider Jesus (Son of Mary) as a prophet of God (Muslims just don’t believe that Jesus WAS literally God incarnate) The Ten Commandments might be possibly be a problem for a Hindu or Buddhist parent but the real problem would be for atheists. Didn’t we go through some case years ago where some woman atheist raised a big stink about people praying in schools? Whatever happened to that precedent?
I don't know if this reasoning makes sense since it's an implicit insult to Muslims, whose moral cornerstone comes from Sharia law, not the Ten Commandments. Why should they have another culture's moral values imposed on them? And Judaic traditions don't view the Ten Commandments in the same way. Again, it's a imposition of religion by an institution of the state, in this case public education, which is explicitly prohibited by the Establishment Clause.
To say that atheists would be the most offended just doesn't parse.
You’re probably right, but I was thinking mostly of that woman atheist Madeleine Murray O’Hare or something- because wasn’t there an actual case back in the day that prohibited prayer in schools? I don’t understand how these precedents are now being ignored.
Kind of reminds me of our local weirdo from Hawai’i, Tulsi Gabbard. I mean we all go through political changes over time, but some people are just off the charts!!
Have you ever seen this political ad with teenage Tulsi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXPH_b_ATio
Her dad's religious cult -- Hare Krishnas in business suits, basically -- glommed on hard to social conservative issues he thought he could ride into office. "I wouldn't marry my DOG." Hysterical. But that was Tulsi's Red/Brown Convergence entree to illustrate the horseshoe theory of politics and go from New Age peacenik in the Democratic Party to full blown MAGA.
So funny to see her iced out over Iran. You surprised, Tulsi? ;)
I remember those weird displays that they used to put up at Honolulu City Lights. I know there’s also something where Mike Gabbard’s son is a homosexual?
It’s a totally fucked up family!
For awhile back around 2016 I used to go to a potluck here with a lot of old Democratic Party operatives. Boy oh boy- they had a few words to say about Tulsi!!😱
I'd say the crunchy-to-wingnut pipeline was amusing if it wasn't so dangerous. It's RFKjr, right? The crusading environmental lawyer and River Keeper eating roadkill and bathing his children in sewage contaminated streams. And whatever happened to Marianne Williamson? I'll just bet she's an RFKjr supporter now, LOL
There are more of these people than we like to think, Bernie-to-Trump voters who have a leftist analysis of the failures of duopoly government believing that Trump will transcend it all and usher in a world of abundance and no wars. Joe Rogan is a Bernie bro who also became a white nationalism-curious antivaxxer.
Madalyn Murray O'Hair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madalyn_Murray_O'Hair
Quite an interesting figure. This was in the 60s and 70s when the courts were much more socially liberal. She put atheism on the map as a political movement but was also the archetypical crank, a Holocaust denier, conspiracy theorist and a radical feminist too radical for feminism. The atheism movement had since distanced themselves from her (Christopher Hitchens called her a "madwoman") and she became the perfect fright figure for the New Right, the anti-Phyllis Schlafly. Didn't help that her dad was a Communist and she was a Socialist.
She was part of the landmark SCOTUS case that ruled prayer in school unconstitutional, but she was also the chief speechwriter for porn king Larry Flynt's '84 presidential campaign. As an advocate for secularism of that era, I prefer Frank Zappa, but she had her place to be sure, even though she'd never be one to build consensus around constitutional principles with those less radical than she.
People of Praise is a patriarchal cult with some odd practices, including speaking in tongues.
It's all Vatican II and Pope Francis approved, but anytime you mix in Pentecostal / charismatic stuff with mainline denominations, weird, culty stuff starts happening. Hopefully they won't jump the Catholic doctrinal shark and become premillenarian (End Times) Christian like the Protestant Pentecostal / charismatics. End Times Christianity just licenses preppers.
It's a shame you recorded this before we learned about the cheesiest bro losing his law license. The livestream chat was pretty grim. I want to clarify that I'm an ardent supporter of reproductive autonomy and am no fan Catholic Integralism (of which Opus Dei is a manifestation), but I do think that Amy Coney Barrett is cut from a different cloth than Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.
I think technically she's the swing vote on SCOTUS now, which means she's fulfilling the role of Anthony Kennedy and Sandra Day O'Connor. Which is not to compare SDO's beliefs about abortion with ACB's, just that they're both conservative straight shooters by their lights.
Sonia Sotomayor with her blistering dissents is the new Ruth Bader Ginsberg.