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Brenda King's avatar

Galloway seems to not have any credentials that would support expertise in the status of men, women, men and women, or the loneliness epidemic in this country. It's actually just exactly the same ol' same ol', with a middle-aged white man expounding on something he is aware of, but doesn't actually have any research or expertise in, as if he has as much an informed opinion as psychologists, sociologists and people doing the actual work of examining the phenomenon and the potential contributors and possible solutions. He's repeating the manosphere perspectives without the violent language and overt hatred of women, but the misogyny remains the same, and he gets accolades and supporters who hear the softened tone over the content and he gets treated like an expert. The loneliness epidemic has been going on for more than twenty years, and boys and men have been in crisis for 30 plus years. Yes, it's not good, but until the culture - and men - are truly willing to change the status quo, and grow themselves, men and boys will be in crisis. Galloway's ideas of gender differences are straight out of his Marketing experience and history, and have nothing to do with biology, brain science or psychology. And, while Scott may decry men's likelihood to "hurt themselves" after a date, as of this year, 41% - almost half - of women will experience physical violence or stalking, and a full 50% of female homicide victims are killed by someone they love. Often by that loved one, after drinking that alcohol that this conversation seems to think is such a great elixir for lubricating social interactions. WTF. So, as Margaret Atwood said, "Men are afraid women will laugh at them, and women are afraid men will kill them". Because it's actually likely, Scott. Sorry, Rick, this conversation belongs at the bar; I'm sure it was fun for you guys, but it's moving nothing forward, it's a Saturday night, half-in-the-bag blowhard opinion-fest that needed a few women eavesdropping and then boisterously correcting you guys on a whole slew of issues.

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Yes to the jobs training acts that Lyndon Johnson got passed in the 1960s. Probably getting people in a setting to learn job skills and have some successes (esp away from smart phones) could be an answer. Just for the record, 80 year old female retired lawyer here, men don't need to be Harvey Weinstein to behave badly--sexual harassment is real, and further, women are consistently discriminated against in all areas of work. Am I wrong to think that as the previously favored group, white men just haven't come to grips with not being automatically handed better jobs / better pay just for being born white and male? Entering a brand new law school building made for 1,000 students in 1969, (1) no women's bathrooms, except across from the secretary's station; (2) the women students I knew all worked and were able in those cheap days to pay their way, whereas many of the male students played cards in the afternoon before their (working) wives picked them up; (3) some professors made derogatory remarks about women as part of their standard classroom presentations. A male colleague griped to me that he would have gotten into a better law school except that "some Asian woman took my (his) place." Guess what we women students did? We ignored them all, got our degrees and went to work. Buckle up, boys. It's not going to change for you till you decide to take your lumps and do the scut work that women still do.

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